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Justin Peacock's avatar

Great post, Andy. Refreshing.

A couple of years ago I was cragging next to a guy who took a nasty ground fall (VERY lucky as injuries weren't life-changing or ending, but he was knocked out, bleeding and in bad shape). His partner has just finished a Wilderness First Responder course the week prior and after the fall went into full first aid algorithm mode. The partner was borderline panicked but did a fine job and we all helped stabilize the guy and roll him off of his harness full of cams.

I was on a mountain rescue team for 10 years and in my experience, there's basically nothing you can do without ALS, advanced kit and drugs. You simply have to wait for rescue. I tried to calm the partner down, explained he was doing great, and that we just had to wait. Once rescue arrived there was a doctor who took control of medical. The partner talked to the doc and said "damn I forgot to check for battle sign" to which the doc said "so what, what could you have done?".

It's really disempowering, but I wish more people understood that accident victims in remote settings are either stable or going to die. In my years on the team we only had three subjects who were truly on the edge. In two cases the only reason they survived is because we immediately had a helicopter that flew us in and the patient out. The third died during transport while we were in brutal conditions at night. Every other victim was either miserable or already dead as it simply takes a long time for help to arrive. It wouldn't surprise me if this story is a bit different in Europe (I'm in the US) where the travel times for helicopters are incredibly short (and therefore fast) and the rescue services are world-class.

Your post has some good points and tools I wasn't aware of, thanks!

Oscar's avatar

You're not the first to be spooked out my expedition medics. About Stephen Stanley, Chief Surgeon, on the NWP Erebus/Terror expedition - 'He is rather inclined to be good-looking, .... , very white hands, which are always abominably clean, and the shirt sleeves tucked up; giving one unpleasant ideas that he would not mind cutting one's legs off immediately, if not sooner'

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